The discussion on Wednesday April 30, 2014 covered "ਅਜੂਨੀ(AJUNI)" from the Mool Mantar - best translated as "unborn" or "uncaused, " not subjected to the cycle of birth and death.
The dialogue sought to establish Guru Nanak's distinct - and radical - departure from the prevailing "Avtarvaad" thought process that was the common Vaishnavite expression in the Punjab of his time.
A natural corollary to "Ajuni" is the next term in the Mool Mantar: Saibhang, meaning Self caused or Self Existent. The group will delve into Saibhang in the next session, although the linkage with Ajuni is recognized.
Some questions that arose:
- How does one reconcile the different forms in which Ajuni has appeared in Gurbani and in the writings of the 10th Guru?
- If the visible world is the "Sargun" expression of Vaheguru, then does it mean that Vaheguru's Sargun expression is subject to death, since we all experience death?